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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by UlyssesT@hexbear.net to c/games@hexbear.net

EDIT: Seems dynamic music is back in style in some very recent games, many of which I haven't really played yet. Good. wholesome

For me, it's dynamic music, the kind that some games had that adjusted moment by moment to what was happening in the game.

The best-known example of this in the 90s game TIE Fighter, where the moment more enemy (or allied) ships showed up the music would have a little additional flourish to acknowledge the shift in battle. There were pre-battle tension tracks, battle music, complications of battle, grandiose flourishes for the arrival of enemy or even allied capital ships, and victory and failure music all ready to flow into the next seconds of the game.

A lesser-known but still excellent example of this was in Ultima Underworld and its sequel, where drawing a weapon had its own special "preparing for battle" tension music, getting attacked had a jump-out-of-your-skin joltingly sudden musical start that actually scared me as a kid when I got ambushed, music for battles going well, going poorly, victory and defeat.

I wish more games did those sort of second by second musical changes, but they've sort of fallen out of fashion for the most part. sicko-wistful

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[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

Cheat codes. They're mostly just DLC and seasonal passes now.

Game manuals. You used to have a short novella that came with the game. Some games like Wasteland 1, the manual was part of the game itself. Now you get jack shit.

[-] Moonguide@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Part of why Tunic is so great. The manual is a part of the game.

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[-] RION@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

Ragdoll physics have kinda fallen by the wayside but they're so much fun

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

I feel like gibs aren't really a thing anymore. Are gibs still a thing?

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[-] dronebama@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

Inventory Tetris. Whenever a game has the player carry stuff in hammerspace it’s almost always done by using a weight system like how Bethesda does it. I want resident evil style inventory where items can take up multiple space slots.

[-] shroobinator@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Please play Backpack Battles. Totally awesome if you love trying to place your items optimally.

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[-] bigboopballs@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago
[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

DS download play was a weird and welcome oasis of LAN play/spawn copy installs and I miss it so much

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[-] Crowtee_Robot@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

I feel like cel shading never took off they way it could have. Outside of anime style games it seems like it always takes a back seat to realism which sucks because it's looks rad as hell. XIII and Viewtiful Joe are two examples that stick out in my memory, plus Wind Waker pissed off so many Zelda fans who wanted a grimdark Peter Jackson LoZ game. It was great.

[-] Comp4@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

While technically not cel shaded. The Borderlands series uses a comic artstyle very much inspired by it. That would be a big one.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

It's really difficult to make it not look bad in many cases, it often comes out blotchy

[-] ksynwa_from_lemmygrad@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Hi-Fi Rush if a recent non-anime game that is cel shaded but it still has a tinge of anime vibes.

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[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

Virtual Pets in games. Like the mag system in Phantasy Star Online or the Chao in Sonic Adventure, such a fun way to waste time, especially since I already enjoy v-pets.

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[-] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Even Battlefield itself barely used it, but destructible environments. I played both Bad Company games and the destruction was great. Battlefield 3, as much as I love the game, regressed when it came to destructible environments. I barely played BF4 but I remember they made some maps have scripted destruction.

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[-] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

One of my least favourite things in the entertainment industry is when a new innovative or interesting thing is in an otherwise mediocre/terrible product, its used as a justification to never do it again. Of course, you can go far in the other direction and assume that because something is different means it is "good", whatever that means. I appreciate artistic risk taking tho

There's probably a decent number of random mechanics in RTSes that got used once and then never again. I remember Act of War had the prisoner mechanic, which encouraged aggressive risk taking play. It was present in the sequel but I think they could have leaned into it further. Not that any random mechanic is going to be generally applicable. I always wanted RTSes to be more asymmetric but that's harder for balance and the marketing of "competitive" ranked play.

A mechanic I really enjoyed in a recent game was from Enlisted. It's a competitive (as in, you're playing against other humans) first person shooter, but your respawns are your bot squad. Most of the time when you're shooting at a rando crossing a field, it's a bot. This experience meant that even the worst players were getting kills and having an effect (by killing the better players respawns). I'm not terrible but not that good at FPSes either, but I found the experience way less frustrating overall. The rest of the game was mid. Freemium. But I'd be interested to see that in other games.

I remember an old game called Metal Fatigue, which had a battle layers mechanic. Obviously many city/base builders have had this for ages, but I could totally see it in a modern imagining of the current Palestinian thing. Having a multilayered tunnelling mechanic to fight over.

I think overall when I'm playing non-competitive indie games, my main gripe is usually "I wish this game was the same except for this thing from another game". Modding is generally less available nowadays, and I'm not the most amazing coder so remaking the whole game with the extra mechanic from scratch isn't really an option (probably).

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[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure what you're talking about, because dynamic contextual music is pretty damn standard nowadays, especially for bigger budget titles. DOOM 2016 and DOOM Eternal made extensive use of it. BG3 does it.

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[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

Most shit still present in TF2 like:

  • Open chat. I like to get in rivalries and talk shit with the enemy team.

  • Server setups. It could be a pain to find a good server with room, but it meant you could pick a tryhard server for a while, maybe go back to your usual spot and meetup with the gang, then try some server that solos your favorite map 24/7, before taking a bite and trying out one with crazy

  • Mods. Maybe somebody had a half-finished mario kart server. Or a randomizer where you got a random gun and attributes.

[-] Wheaties@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Server setups need to make a comeback.

Imagine Elden Ring, but you open the server browser and get a list like

  • scrunglyguysTradeServer [random enemy locations] [500% movement speed]
  • BetterEldenRing [all bosses replaced with Burial Watchdogs]
  • storymode [x100 weapon damage] [no enemy agro]
  • ObnoxousOverTheTopDifficult [no spells] [no miracles] [no items] [no dodge roll]
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[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The arcade experience. I remember that feeling of walking into a new arcade and just spending hours discovering shit. Walking down the line and seeing some faves, then seeing some crazy machine you've never seen and popping in a quarter ands hooting bad guys together with a wisecracking rando.

Arcades also let you readily and cheaply engage with physical mechanics. You might crawl onto a motorbike and physically tilt your body to steer, dance like a nut until you were sweating and panting, or crawl INSIDE of a jeep and shoot dinosaurs with a mate while velociraptors roar behind you.in surround sound

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[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Dynamic music is absolutely still a thing, I'm not even sure where you got the idea it went away. Street Fighter 6 is an easy example of round-by-round change, and literal second-by-second changes (I think really generation?) are used in non-setpiece parts of BotW and BotW 1.5. It's even more overt in Untitled Goose Game.

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[-] AlpineSteakHouse@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

DS Download play was the shit and it sucks that it hasn't been used more.

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[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't know how common it is but it's certainly not dead, it's a staple of Mario games and lately I've been playing Returnal which has some fucking rad dynamic music.

Anyway my answer is "not being a walled garden." I appreciate having official servers that don't suck ass and matchmaking and meticulous balance and stuff like that, but I'll trade it all in a heartbeat for a server browser full of 900 ping russian hosts and easy-to-mod json/xml files.

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

Heavy moddability and easy to make player bots for solo play. I played so many hours on jedi knight 1 with the insane amount of mods and player made single player levels.

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[-] matthewmercury@reddthat.com 14 points 1 year ago

SSX 3 is one of my favorite all-time games and the dynamic music was one of the reasons. Not only is the soundtrack full of amazing artists and songs, elements of the tracks duck or swell contextually. As you soar into massive air tricks, the lyrics drop out and then the music crescendos when you nail the landing. When you glide through an ice cave, the leads and highs hush and the bass and rhythm push like an underground river until you reach the surface and the other tracks rush back in. It’s great.

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[-] windowlicker@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

linear levels. i am well aware this hasn't fallen totally out of use, and there are tons of great games being made in a linear fashion still. i'm very aware of that fact, and i'm happy about it. but i HATE open world and rarely see it implemented in a good way. i miss when games had linear levels, like missions after each other. the biggest example for me is halo, a game series that means a lot to me as CE was one of the first video games i ever played. with the release of infinite, there was a shift away from beautifully designed and curated experiences that make up each level. with individual levels you could truly see how much dedication the developers put into the game in a way that the open-world randomized bullshit cannot show.

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[-] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

when your inventory was this little "tetris" game , where you had to arrange your loot accordingly

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[-] machinya@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

this one was never really popular, but hardware gimmicks. from the light gun to dance pads, going through wii motion controllers or even double screen of the ds and wiiu (fuck you nintendo for abandonning the wiiu) I really miss having different ways of playing games that was not only game pads or keyboard + mouse. even if the games were not great, having some physical interaction with them was fun to explore. sadly, even when they were "common", not many games made very good use of them, resulting in most games being mediocre at best

the closest modern equivalent I can think about is VR and it is not something I want to play with

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[-] PointAndClique@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

The Pokemon Contests (using the Pokemon's moveset to appeal to judges, rather than combat) from Ruby Sapphire was my favourite part about those games. I wish they'd bring them back.

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[-] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Fmv cutscenes, especially the horrible cheesy ones. It's like you found the worst actors in your local drama theatre and gave them a budget of 25 dollars. I love it.

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[-] TheDialectic@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

The patent expired for loading screen mini games didn't it. How come those never came back?

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[-] Bloobish@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Splitscreen, level editors, and also unlockable costumes/skins for doing certain things (side missions, achievements, that kinda stuff).

[-] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Level builders/editors

Splitscreen

K/D ratio - I know it's still in a lot of games but quite a few mainstream shooters have removed it

Aim assist being in everything - if it's crossplay, sure, level the playing field, but if it's console v console there's no need for that shit.

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[-] WittyProfileName2@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

In some old CRPGs like Fallout 2 there was a bar to type in keywords to skip to conversation trees about specific topics. I don't see that nowadays, but always preferred it in more dialogue heavy games.

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