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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 60 points 4 months ago

I went to a shrink, to analyze my dreams; he said it's lack of sex that's bringing me down.

I went to a whore, she said my life's a bore; to quit my whining cuz it's brining her down.

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 49 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The shrink is a she, the whore uses both he and she pronouns in the song. The pronouns are even bolded in the lyrics sheet and quite noticable in the song.

Singer is bisexual and while he was supportive of generally challenging gender norms, sometimes his trans comments were what would be considered transphobic nowadays. See:

https://genius.com/Green-day-android-lyrics

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh0Mozl_ZTo

And

https://genius.com/Green-day-king-for-a-day-lyrics

[-] toynbee@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

As a kid who had no understanding or awareness of anything that challenged gender norms, I was confused about the mixed pronouns. Then I forgot about that song. Some twenty years later, this mystery was addressed. Thank you for the information.

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Yeah I was in elementary school when dookie came out so I can't say I was particularly enlightened either, but it stuck with me.

[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

It could also be that the prostitute is male and telling the singer to quit whining because their life is so boring that it's probably even bringing down their therapist.

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Yeah some people think it's an unmentioned girlfriend too, but it doesn't really fit the lyric structure. It's jarring enough that it has to be telling you some sort of taboo subtext.

[-] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Interesting, I never pictured the character in Android as a trans person, honestly what I had in mind was more of a mentally unwell, possibly unhoused, person that perhaps had no other choice but to wear woman's shies. Given, all of that in today's lens is very problematic, but the song is 33 years old after all and I didn't really have an understanding of trans people when I first heard it more than 20 years ago. Though I did pretty clearly understand the meaning of the line in basketcase.

Idk, maybe it's because I grew up with them and Billie Joe was a queer idol for me growing up, but king for a day never struck me as demeaning towards people who cross dress or people who are trans either. Just a (probably autobiographical) song about breaking gender norms.

I am almost as old as Android and probably my views are getting outdated so feel free to ignore my ramblings. Just interesting to see how the world has changed even from when I was little confused kid. (Now I'm a big confused kid)

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

I honestly think it's inclusive language for the time. I just don't think you'd let far with using it nowadays.

[-] deltapi@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Yeah, I read that as the homeless person is wearing woman's shoes and is crazy, not that he's being judged as crazy for wearing woman's shoes. Nothing in android's lyrics struck me as transphobic.

In king for a day I see homophobia in general represented by the dad character and the implication that the "guys" will do something bad - but that's the point, isn't it? To condemn the homophobia?

Idk, I think that when it comes to interpretation there is no winning when up against someone with an agenda. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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[-] Undearius@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago

I always thought the sung lyrics were "I went to a whore who said my life's a bore"

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 43 points 4 months ago

Sometimes I give myself the creeps.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago

Sometimes my mind plays tricks on me

[-] BigFatNips@sh.itjust.works 21 points 4 months ago
[-] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 21 points 4 months ago

I think I'm cracking up!

[-] Jerkface@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago
[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 10 points 4 months ago

Am I just paranoid or am I stoned?

[-] BigFatNips@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago

What the fuck is this shit 😭😂 username checks out lol

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago

Sounds like a really bad therapist, and a stripper in the wrong career.

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[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago

It all keeps adding up. I think I'm cracking up.

[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

Am I just paranoid, or am I just stoned?

[-] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Grasping to control, so you better hold on

[-] Midnight1938@reddthat.com 12 points 4 months ago
[-] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago

Basket Case

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 10 points 4 months ago

“She said to quit my whining cause it’s bringing her down”

— Actual story of the Greenday song

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