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Then you’re gonna have a bad time
As will everyone else
Anyone remember the internet before trump. Good times, thanks again america
I think a better one is if anyone remembers the internet before the Russian trolls/bot farms invaded all the social media sites. You wouldn't hear about Dementia DonOLD because at this point he'd be irrelevant or in jail.
If we don't move past Trump I'm moving to the jungle and not coming back.
It won't help, they'll strip mine it.
In the jungle, the mighty jungle, tropicaldingdong sleeps tonight.....
oooooWEEEEEEEE we we we we wom wom wom ah wayyyyy!!!!
If the orange bad happens again I'm gonna leave the country.
The city is not much better. We’re all splattered when the shit hits the fan.
Maybe you are not coming back, but deforestation will come after you!
🎵 Bingo, Bangle, Bungle, I'm so happy in the jungle 🎵
But... orangutans live in the jungle. I thought you wanted to get away from Trump.
I can’t imagine we will ever have another president whose whole presidency is remembered by its scandals, terrible marriage, his coming out of nowhere to win the office, and the general incompetence and corruption. His slogan didn’t even mean anything, but people just went with it.
One Warren G Harding was enough. America won’t be fooled twice.
Isn't Trump just a symptom? What scares the shit out of me, isn't Trump. It's that Americans voted for him once, and a repeat of that shit show is somehow again a possibility. Even 5% thinking that could be a good idea, would be cause for concern. 10% is "what the actual fuck America...".
Remove Trump from the picture, and the issue is still there. The people who would vote for him, and the machinery in place that can convince them of it.
Imagine someone as vile as Trump, but not dumb as a sponge....
A lot of people are really quite stupid. On top of that, they're in social groups (ie: tribes) that have shitty values.
Long term investing in education would help. So would things like removing lead from the environment, and fixing healthcare and labor laws so people aren't so stressed all the time trying to survive.
Something like half of US adults can't read at a 6th grade level (Snopes says this is basically true but there are complexities https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/08/02/us-literacy-rate/ )
He's not just a symptom. If he was, they'd have someone else running they can better control. If we passed laws that news agencies are required to be truthful and neutral, we wouldn't be in this mess. With the red states undermining education and fox "news" stirring up hatred, fear, and lies, you get a cult/base that won't listen to reality or facts. When they're presented with irrefutable evidence that contradicts what they've been told, they put their fingers in their ears and start yelling shit like "but her emails?!?!?!?!, well Obama did (insert some random bullshit lie), Clinton did (another bullshit lie), or "what about Hunter's laptop huh?????.
They don't care, they can't comprehend what's really happening and it's mind blowing. I work with a guy that I asked why he's voting for Mr Orange and he brings up points that he says the republicans are doing when in fact it's the democrats doing that, the repbulikkklowns are voting against it. I point that out to him and he tells me I'm full of shit. I tell him do a quick web search, and he comes back with fake news and walks away. It's scary and sad.
You're kinda arguing my point tho, so maybe I didn't communicate it very well.
If a character such as Trump gaining power can be considered a symptom, then the conditions that allow it is the disease. I.e. the points you make, with news networks not beholden to facts, lack of education and critical thought.
All of this is what I would argue is the underlying cause and conditions that are fertile grounds for populists. Also, just a little reminder that Hitler first succeeded on his second attempt at becoming a dictator. And unlike in the US, he was imprisoned for the first attempt.
I really just think it's trump. he has zero shame or self inflection, or respect for himself, so he doesn't care. he just lies and lies and feeds people bullshit. didn't do anything, but told people what they wanted to hear, that news was fake, trust him not your eyes, and anyone not white is a problem. it was all the fuel idiots needed to "team up" and wear diapers. their boring lives now had a purpose and a team lol.
not that someone else won't try, but they played all their cards, I think it's going to calm down after this. they'll still bitch and moan about a black female president, but fuck em, we did what we needed to and it's time to let a woman, especially a black woman, mindfuck them for 4 years.
It's feeling very, "worst so far" these days. You might need to prepare for reality calling your bluff.
I'm sure it'll be worse after Trump. He's an idiot. Imagine someone with the same agenda, but actually smart and subtle.
Yeah I mean project 2025 is not his thing, it's the heritage foundation's thing they've been scheming for years.
He might be an idiot, but he's a useful idiot. I get the feeling there are smart people at play, just using trump as a puppet more or less.
Edit: I guess my point being, yeah it can always get worse, but i feel like we're already pretty far along in terms of how bad politicians can be. The way it gets worse after this i think is them gaining more and more control over the government.
Just remember there's always one of the Paul's
Ron, Rand and Ru.
Nor should you. Everything shitty in politics is not due to Trump, but he sure normalized a lot of bad things that weren't a thing before him. If conservatists from 80s had been dropped into a Trump rally in 2020, they would have been extremely confused.
They would have been, but then they would have RAN to their closets to get their white robes and start cheering.
Yeah but we'd have to redo the Senate completely - definitely a Constitutional amendment - and expand the House (I think they can just add seats) to reduce or eliminate the power of land ownership on our government's composition.
Or change the Senate to a House Of Lords kind of model. Still an amendment.
Which means the short term solution is all anti MAGA people have to band together and stick together until MAGA dies off. Then maybe the Republican Party can be reborn to be more like it was in the 70s (but hopefully with less bigotry). This rot started with Reagan, so we have to go back at least that far.
(This would also free up religious people to find the candidate and party whose policy goals match their most important beliefs instead of the other way around.)
this post was submitted on 31 Aug 2024
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