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The other day, after I claimed that china isn't a historically expansionist or militarist country, I was told "what does the dalai lama have to say about that?". Holy shit people are dumb. Like, ask the pope what he thinks about the genocide in Palestine instead, genius.
The idea of China invading the country at the request of the Tibetan Communist Party, crushing the Lamas, freeing the slaves, and iirc they had to do it twice because the Lamas tried to start shit again, would never penetrate, would it?
I remember a Chinese person slapping down some of this bullshit saying that 98% of Tibetans speak Tibetan and asking the American how many native americans spoke an indigenous language.
and asking the American how many native americans spoke an indigenous language
And this is why libs invented 'that's just whataboutism'
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There's also just the fact that Tibet diplomatically rejoined with China right after the end of the Civil War and only decided to split a decade later, after much work had been done to improve conditions for the serfs and this lead to an outraged aristocratic class trying to breakaway to maintain power. It's very roughly like calling the US expansionist for invading the Confederacy.
A question for them would be "what does the Dalai Lama have to say about Nepal having peasant slaves into the 20th century and why do all the Bhuddist Temples have to be gilded in gold?"
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Didn't he just tell some kid to suck on his tongue like a year ago?
Yup, and deprogram sub upvoted his defenders for that.
r/thedeprogram seems like the mirror universe version of r/chapotraphouse. Instead of the sub being more based than the showrunners, they're less based.
It's pretty easy to explain though, and not really chapo but GenZedong, that sub got harsh struggle sessions about imperialism and religion, and when it was banned, based people went to Lemmygrad while centrists and clerical socialists went to deprogram (good advice: don't engage on deprogram about religion, while they are some people with correct takes there, you can more often read takes like the defence of tongue sucking or absolute nuclear takes that you can't become marxist without religion or that religion is inherently materialist).
good advice: don't engage on deprogram about religion, while they are some people with correct takes there, you can more often read takes like the defence of tongue sucking or absolute nuclear takes that you can't become marxist without religion or that religion is inherently materialist
Oof. It doesn't help that at least 2 of the 3 bois are religious. Hakim is Muslim and Yugopnik is Eastern Orthodox. I don't know about JT.
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I've seen his kindness and it shouldn't be around kids
who needs a temple when they are on the CIA's payroll
No need for temples coz you got booted out bro
Come listen to this banger instead https://yewtu.be/watch?v=b60_Vis2x24
The burning of the slave contracts gets me emotional ngl
CW: some historical footage of Tibetan serfdom that may be disturbing
Oof, yeah. Slavery and serfdom in pre-communist Tibet was bad. Maybe not as bad as American slavery in scope, but very very bad. Please exercise caution when you research it and be ready to take a break if it starts to be overwhelming.
"Your own mind, your own heart, and your child sex slaves are the temple. Your philosophy is simple kindness and millions of dollars."
I can excuse being an anti-communist relic of a fallen feudal slave state, but I draw the line at anti-gooning stances.
Reminds me of a funny video I saw that talked about some of the most famous Japanese warlords and their depiction in media; one of the warlords is often depicted as a funny monkey man but he was a brutal war criminal who tried to invade Korea and killed tons and tons of people, and he mentioned something about the other two but I can't recall what it was exactly (I think one of them was Nobunaga who I think he said was the least worst of the bunch but still bad).
You get this simple philosophy here but the history behind the group is actually quite horrific (if I recall correctly, wikipedia even has a page just for Tibetan torture methods).
I hate how Nobunaga gets venerated as a god-general-statesman in cultural exports when he was just a ruthless conqueror the same as anyone else. I wish one one-hundredth of the ink spilled for him was spilled for the Ikko-Ikki peasant revolt he crushed. Were that the case, I might be able to successfully research it.
The whole Samurai caste is romanticized, especially outside of Japan. They were the ruthless, opportunistic enforcers of the hierarchy, not honorable warrior-scholars. Bushido is what led Japan down the path of imperialism and resulted in WWII.
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Even when you fight Nobunaga in media you're usually doing it as the stooge of some other warlord
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lol, was it this guy, Hideyoshi Toyotomi? He was in every Onimusha game too as Nobunaga's sidekick before becoming the ruler of Japan between the third and fourth games. The final Onimusha game is actually all about his atrocities- invading "the continent"(the country is never specified), massacring civilians, outlawing Christianity and killing all Western missionaries (though that last one doesn't sound too bad)
The funny thing is that he ends up completely exonerated in Onimusha lore- he was just a smol bean who became possessed by demons and he feels real bad about it
Yesssssss, that's the guy! He did so much monstrous stuff but he's usually depicted in a goofy manner!
outlawing Christianity and killing all Western missionaries (though that last one doesn’t sound too bad)
Most of work here was done later by Tokugawas: Ieyasu, Hidetada and Iemitsu, but despite brutality it was a W (most of said brutality happened really during Iemitsu reign). Hideyoshi observed in real time how christianity served as softener for colonialism and it's clear he wanted to avoid it, though preferably keeping trade with Europeans. Interesting fact is that christianity was pretty thin in Japan as in case of both Sekigahara campaign and later sieges of Osaka, overwhelming most of Japanese christians supported Hideyoshi's heir Hideyori.
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The CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia, is his temple.
So why does he and his cronies even whine about losing temples, land and slaves? China did them a favour!
Met(t)apost: Communism is taking the philosophy of kindness and applying it to political economy
I hate how this guy used to capture my father's attention. He thought this guy was somehow some sort of authentic practitioner. He's just as corrupt as our local priests who work hand in glove with the local Republicans.
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