Oh to be a dingus, what a wonderful life I'd have : chapotraphouse

[+] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 114 points 9 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

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[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 67 points 9 months ago

I really don’t get it, like, I thought the reason we were all annoying atheists because of a sense of love for humanity, equality, etc. and seeing that Christianity was the most powerful force for regression and subjugation for the last 1500 years or so.

Like, how did we go from atheism to “protecting western civilization”? What is western civilization if not the societies produced by hegemonic Christianity? My atheism is a big part of what drew me to oppose the values of western civilization. And I really thought we were all on the same page on that.

And I guess I wasn’t entirely wrong, as it seems like Russel Brand went the other way around and became a Christian to keep supporting western ideals.

[-] supafuzz@hexbear.net 49 points 9 months ago

the reason they were all annoying atheists was because islam bad, turns out

[-] buh@hexbear.net 27 points 9 months ago

there's that, but also I think for some of them being a new atheist libertarian was a way to be conservative while separating themselves from the unfun aspects of religious conservative ideology (but specifically the anti-drug and anti sex before marriage parts)

but now they're old, their days of partying and chasing girls are behind them and they've either settled down with a partner or accepted being foreveralone, so they no longer need the veneer of being a fun dudebro, and even if on the inside they don't really believe in religion, they realize that it supports their interests with regard to upholding social hierarchies, so they turn back to it

[-] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 31 points 9 months ago

The new atheist movement was for neocons who didn’t care to do the Jesus stuff but still wanted in on being racist to Middle Eastern people

[-] BashfulBob@hexbear.net 18 points 9 months ago

Christianity was the most powerful force for regression and subjugation for the last 1500 years or so.

Turns out it wasn't Christianity, just aristocracy.

Russel Brand went the other way around and became a Christian to keep supporting western ideals.

He was always a mediocre entertainer. First he rejected Christianity as part of his dog-and-pony show. Now he's come around, because the original bit couldn't pull the same audience. But its always just been a performance. The only thing he cares about as the attention (and the money it generates).

[-] Zuzak@hexbear.net 15 points 9 months ago

Yeah I mean at that point Christianity was all about bombing people and hating LGBT people and those were big factors for me in rejecting it but it turns out there were also people who rejected it for some other reason and then realized that they'd accidentally undermined their justifications for bombing people and hating LGBT people and had to scramble to come up with new ones.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago

I really don’t get it, like, I thought the reason we were all annoying atheists because of a sense of love for humanity, equality, etc.

That was what I thought too, and was the reason I moved away from nu atheist stuff

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Have you thought maybe they just wanted to be mean to the weird sheltered christian kid at school, and girls?

[-] propter_hog@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago

That's certainly my reason for being an annoying atheist

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[-] JayTreeman@hexbear.net 41 points 9 months ago

They were always grifters

[-] BashfulBob@hexbear.net 22 points 9 months ago

Reminds me of Christopher Hitchens. A man who made a living on the talk show circuit by tweaking people's noses and saying "Are you mad? Are you mad, yet?"

All fun and games when the people getting tweaked were self-important holy rollers. But as soon as he saw a payday in pissing on anti-war protesters by calling them Islamists, the man was urinating like a fucking fire hose.

Dawkins is just a lower-rent Hitchens.

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[-] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 22 points 9 months ago

They were always unwell.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 21 points 9 months ago

I tried to steer it in to a militant occult organization but, obvious, i got distracted yelling at the memes guy about Islamic history and forgot to train my godslaying army.

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 16 points 9 months ago

what a lack of material analysis does to motherfuckers

[-] Blottergrass@hexbear.net 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Meh, happened with the boomers. This whole country is designed at every level to stifle progress in left wing thought.

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[-] Tomboymoder@hexbear.net 58 points 9 months ago

“‘And whenever you pray, do not be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, so that they may be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward.“

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 26 points 9 months ago

Somehow that one has never made an impact on anyone, ever, except weirdly enough Prince who is semi-famous for doing concerts in places that were having a bad time so he could have an excuse to be in the area to quietly do good work because idk Prince?

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[-] drinkinglakewater@hexbear.net 42 points 9 months ago

Whys the lobster man dressed like Two-Face from Batman

[-] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 24 points 9 months ago

He's getting a lot of questions about his suit that are answered by his suit

[-] buckykat@hexbear.net 17 points 9 months ago

He's been dressing like a Batman villain for years now

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[+] celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

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[-] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 19 points 9 months ago

No better signal about someone's guilt than whether or not they immediately flee to the crowd of people who would defend their action (of which they are also guilty).

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[-] Josephine_Spiro@hexbear.net 31 points 9 months ago

Bro is wearing the one suit he owns

[-] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 25 points 9 months ago

Dude paid for custom lamb wool for the "heaven" side and goat wool for the "hell" side. Probably broke the bank and is trying to pawn it off as his 'signature look' or something.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago

Odd that the pants are all hell

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[-] geese_feces@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago

actually he has 12 suits, one for each of his "rules for life": https://lgfgfashionhouse.com/en/catalog/jordan-peterson-book/

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[-] Frank@hexbear.net 29 points 9 months ago

Wait Brand is a god botherer?

[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 48 points 9 months ago

It's his new grift since 𝓣𝓱𝓮 𝓐𝓵𝓵𝓮𝓰𝓪𝓽𝓲𝓸𝓷𝓼 came out last year. Now every public appearance is some kind of Born Again Christian ritual because everyone knows you can't be a paedophile and religious.

[-] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 24 points 9 months ago

He probably wanted to join the Catholic priesthood, but was worried it would be too blatant.

[-] propter_hog@hexbear.net 12 points 9 months ago

A bit on the nose, isn't it?

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago

And if you are you can just do that little "i have sinned but i'm forgiven" ritual they do that somehow absolves them within their weird little cult.

[-] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

No, the problem with being dumb is that, while you get to avoid some of the existential mores, there are other pains that you suffer as a result. You'll make (comparatively more) mistakes that are obvious in hindsight. You'll leave a beer on the ledge while you make a funny emote and your flailing arm will hit it into the pool below. In addition, your interpersonal relationships feel more random in terms of success and failure. Another attribute of intelligence is using of theory of mind to help know when an action makes those around you happy and sad. It's the difference between thinking that North Korea and Iran are just violent maniacs and thinking they might have legitimate grievances with the US and its vassals. If you "only made out with her because our rule is that you can't fuck other people" then you'll likely lose your relationship and think they were being unreasonable. Your relationship with your boss will be generally amiable but sometimes they just explode about random things about your work. These random acts of punishment will extend to the self and nature as well. All sorts of tummy aches, head aches, and bad moods are sidestepped entirely via introspection and adaptation. So many valuable things in life go more smoothly the more you're able to use that noggin to think about responses to actions and adapt because of it.

Or whatever haha

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[-] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 25 points 9 months ago

@rosaslutzemburg

yeah i'd still be using twitter too if I managed to snag a handle that legendary

[-] geese_feces@hexbear.net 20 points 9 months ago

the t_d thread about this devolved into christian infighting arguing that catholics aren't real christians: https://archive.is/MLUgX

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[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago

The logical endpoint of the nu athiests

[-] Test_Tickles@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago

Russell Brand the baptist please baptize Jordan Peterson

[-] nothx@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The Russell Brand 180 is wild…

[+] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

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[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago

Cringe-tianity

[-] Sausage@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago

Never liked brand, glad mark fisher didn’t live long enough to see his turn around.