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[-] Romer@reddthat.com 1 points 8 hours ago

"Anti-imperialists" doggedly promoting Putin's Imperialism against Georgia and Ukraine is all the sign you need that your "leftist" community has been co-opted. Wake up rube.

[-] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 10 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Hahahahahaha lmao great bit! You really nailed the uneducated reddit-lib idiot farthuffer tone chefs-kiss

[-] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 12 points 8 hours ago

The fact that you think the invasion of Ukraine is imperialist is all the sign we need that your politics are entirely vibes based. Read theory, rube.

[-] darkcalling@hexbear.net 8 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Do they disenfranchise people who get felonies from the right to vote there? They should charge these people en mass with felonies or whatever equivalent they have. I don't know at least weaken them as a voting bloc. These people will be back and I have a bad feeling they'll win sooner or later. And that's if they don't win this time and there's a good chance they might. All the EU needs is to get some of their military in on it and they can stage a Maidan, do some violence, overthrow the leadership, sabotage the next vote better and get things rolling.

Pro-EU liberal color revolutionaries are indistinguishable in most ways that matter from fascists in their fanatical defense of capital and all its atrocities and barbarism. For that reason I wish for bad things for them. Today's color revolutionary is tomorrow's fascist storm trooper.

[-] thetaT@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago
[-] newerAccountWhoDis@hexbear.net 6 points 16 hours ago

How do you think about trans people? Do you agree with your newly elected government's stance on lgbt issues?

[-] thetaT@hexbear.net 9 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

i'm not a transphobe and i support the existence of trans people and that they have full rights.

i don't know what you mean by "newly elected", this government has been in power for a while. anyways, i disagree with their very regressive stance on LGBT issues, but i don't think a different government will reverse course on this. i support this government for now because they're taking a somewhat anti-imperialist stance, something Georgia hasn't seen in decades.

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[-] Piment@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago

this is a really basic questsion, but what do you think of this protest?

[-] thetaT@hexbear.net 12 points 13 hours ago

it is so very clearly a western-backed attempt at counterrevolution. no other way to put it. the west used their NGOs and people with influence that they installed to organize these protests and to coerce university students to go to the protests.

[-] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago

Is it really the consensus that the election was cheated? What do you think?

[-] thetaT@hexbear.net 13 points 13 hours ago

it's just the opposition being salty. even "international observers" cannot claim that the election was stolen. the opposition can't cope with the fact that their base of support is just a loud minority in the country and that in reality they're very small.

https://xcancel.com/sopjap/status/1851703891727126946

if you want to get the best info about the elections, i'd recommend giving this thread a read. actually, if you want to stay up to date on Georgia from an anti-imperialist, socialist source, give Sopo Japaridze a follow.

[-] LeZero@hexbear.net 12 points 12 hours ago
[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Well we haven't been able to prove that Snowball sabotaged the windmill project, but

[-] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 77 points 1 day ago

it's amazing how Reddit in 2024 and Reddit in 2014 are exactly the same

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 54 points 1 day ago

Liberalism. Liberalism never changes.

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[-] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 34 points 1 day ago

Friendly reminder when talking to libs about Georgia:

even the EU thinks Georgia started the war against Russia

"In the Mission's view, it was Georgia which triggered off the war when it attacked Tskhinvali (in South Ossetia) with heavy artillery on the night of 7 to 8 August 2008," said Swiss diplomat Heidi Tagliavini, who led the investigation.
The report said the war followed tensions and provocations by Russia, but Tagliavini said: "None of the explanations given by the Georgian authorities in order to provide some form of legal justification for the attack lend it a valid explanation."
Saakashvili had said Georgia was responding to an invasion by Russian forces when it attacked breakaway South Ossetia, but the report found no evidence of this. It said Russia's counter-strike was initially legal, but its military response violated international law when Russian forces pushed into Georgia proper. "Although it should be admitted that it is not easy to decide where the line must be drawn, it seems, however, that much of the Russian military action went far beyond the reasonable limits of defense," the report said.

[-] BashfulBob@hexbear.net 68 points 1 day ago

Georgia: We're holding a referendum on joining the EU. Please select from the following options

  • President Olaf Scholtz, my country yearns for freedom. Please send in the ECB to liberate my people.

  • I am a Russian apparatchik. My vote doesn't count.

Oh my goodness, the election has been rigged by Russian interference. Time to send in the tanks and defeat the Tankies.

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 66 points 1 day ago
[-] StillNoLeftLeft@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago

Ffs this Lord of Unseriousness thinks the EU, which Finland joined after we got our shock treatment and neoliberalism in the 90s, is what kept us safe. Amazing EU, keeps you safe also in the past!

[-] invo_rt@hexbear.net 54 points 1 day ago

Reminder that the Finnish air force had the sw*stika on their flag until 2017!!! hitler-detector

[-] StillNoLeftLeft@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago

This is also still framed as not the swastika: I and everyone I know have asked the serious adults when we were kids: "Why is there a swastika in the air force flag?"

And we have all gotten the same splain about how it: "AcHuAlly is not the swastika at all, because it is the other way around and has been used here far longer and for other reasons than the nazis used it, so it's different."

This is even taught this way in schools. Whatever it takes to keep history buried.

I sometimes struggle to communicate how thoroughly history and all actual events have been disappeared from consciousness here, but this is a good example.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I hate living in America but everything I hear about Finland makes me think I would have lost my mind if I had to grow up there. It's self-image just seems like such a complete fantasy built on top of such a huge obvious historical bedrock of evil, but you're considered the childish naive dumbass for refusing to play pretend atop the bones.

[-] StillNoLeftLeft@hexbear.net 2 points 4 hours ago

It's deflating. I remember growing up and the first time I read Marx as a teen, I went: "This makes so much sense." Said it to the serious adults who all called me utopian and idealist.

The 90s depression is when my own family lost everything. I watched neoliberalism roll in and could not for the life of me understand why people just took the austerity and misery onto their personal selves, how Jaska from the corner bar thought he needs to now suffer because common good and national debt. No riots, no protests, nothing.

Then there is the rise of nationalism and rewriting of history. The great project of national homegenousness that rolled over workers, minorities. The forgotten divide which I at least still remember very well because I crew up in a family of half Reds and half Whites. The othering and shittalk the White section did was so disgusting. I remember it, why nobody else does?

And turns out none of the history I was given in school, from family, is true. I mean true in the framing sense. From the civil war to winter war to finladization it's all just bs from start to finish.

It's a shit country with mostly Reddit type lib people in it now in positions of power. Debatelords and oh so civilized rational trolley problem people who just want to belong to the west. Yet they don't. Our bourge are currently selling us for parts to Google, mining companies and military operators, just as it has always gone. And nobody bats an eye because they believe everything they are told. Or it seems like that at least.

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago

Hey they weren't nazis, they only added the swastika at the suggestion of Hermann Goering's brother-in-law! It's entirely unrelated!

[-] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago

Yeah but they got it before the nazis got it so that makes it totally fine even if it was at the behest of a nazi

[-] Biggay@hexbear.net 15 points 23 hours ago

The very same nazi who got it adopted by Hitler too. Its really all just i-am-adolf-hitler all the way down.

[-] Enjoyer_of_Games@hexbear.net 4 points 15 hours ago

Why should I change it he's the one who sucks

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[-] ManFreakBeast@hexbear.net 56 points 1 day ago

Most Libs don't really care if a color revolution is CIA backed, they think it's a good thing.

[-] newerAccountWhoDis@hexbear.net 7 points 16 hours ago

Most burger leftists think nothing ever happens if not for their almighty burger intelligence agency

[-] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 41 points 1 day ago

Revolution and independence movements are only good if they're to join the West otherwise it's an evil anti-American movement created by Putin/Xi us-foreign-policy

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 44 points 1 day ago

January 6th when it's in periphery country ironicat

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