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[-] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Turns out the laws of physics and geometry are the same everywhere.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Then why would they end up with philips instead of torx?

[-] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

They get sick pleasure from inflicting stupid fastener design on their users?

[-] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Even in fictional universes that have wizards in space with swords made of light?

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I feel like a + shaped screw head would be as standard as a pyramid if multiple civilizations had developed screws independently. It wouldn't be the last kind, but it would be there somewhere. Maybe even a long, long time ago.

[-] Botzo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

There are at least 3 standards for the + shape already. Phillips, Pozidrive, and Japanese Industrial Standard (JIS). They do not play well together.

insert obligatory xkcd standards reference

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This bugs me so much more than it should. Why do we have three different standards for + shaped screws? You know what doesn't have this problem? Flatheads. There's exactly one way to make a flathead screwdriver, and I won't be looking it up to make sure I'm right

I see that multiple people have replied, but unfortunately reading these comments would be a form of research so I must decline

[-] Botzo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Should the slot be partial or go all the way through? If partial, is that standard for the size of the screw, or universal?

How wide should the slot be? Should that change based on the size of the screw?

How deep should the slot be?

Should the sides of the slot be perfectly straight, or angled to perfectly fit the wedge shape of the driver? If angled, what angle?

Should the bottom of the slot be perfectly flat or slightly rounded so a coin or something could be used in a pinch? If rounded, what radius?

Should the top of the screw be perfectly flat, or domed, or raised?

Should the bottom of the head be flat, angled (at which angle), smooth, rough.

Should we use metric or freedom units for the thread pitch?

Should the threads go all the way to the head?

Should the point of the screw be flat or tapered (at what angle)?

Ok, only the first half of those were about the driver used, but I'm sure there are things I missed in that!

[-] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Their isn’t one way to make a flat head screwdriver. Some a chisel and some are slots. The slotted ones are better but more expensive.

Both still slip from the screw and are a pain to manually screw (slotted less so).

Pozi is the best + type screw. It’s pretty much standard for UK construction. The only time a different type is used is sometimes Phillips for plaster board or external hex and internal torx for long or large screws.

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[-] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago
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[-] Etterra@discuss.online 4 points 2 months ago

Hey, if it works it works.

[-] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 months ago

It works, but badly. All my homies hate cam-out and love torx.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

It works great for it's intended purpose which is torque limiting.

[-] Fridgeratr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago

Well, limiting torque but killing itself and becoming extremely hard to remove is terrible design lol

[-] Kitathalla@lemy.lol 5 points 2 months ago

Slight myth there. It was not the intended purpose, but a sort of happy accident. The original patent stated it was a perfect, never damaging thing. See here and the reply here.

[-] evergreen@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Correct. The original patent makes no reference to any sort of cam out / torque limiting feature.

[-] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

Disappointed that the first comment isn't, "May the Torx be with you"

[-] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 2 months ago

That may have been the actual post title I was looking for.

[-] kamen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Ironically enough other standards appeared because of the need of more torque.

[-] _thebrain_@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Even in a galaxy far far away everything is still made in china

Edit: at least they didn't use Phillips screws

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 months ago

Can't get more spacey screws than those. They basically look like galaxies

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Its all fun and games until the Canadians show up.

[-] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Germany has entered the chat.

[-] Cheems@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

We have to go deeper.

[-] algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago

I've stripped more internal hex than all other types combined

[-] DannyBoy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

The internal hex on sway bar end links are useless after any time in the salt. Last time I had to remove them I went straight to the angle grinder and ordered a new pair. Didn't even attempt it.

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[-] RBWells@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

If it ain't broke..

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