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[-] Bronstein_Tardigrade@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 10 hours ago

You can't debate his commitment to the cause. He started with himself.

[-] Hestia@hexbear.net 7 points 13 hours ago

Not just anti-natalist, they were an EFILite so they wanted to extinguished all life in existence.

[-] sawne128@hexbear.net 4 points 12 hours ago

Reddit is nuking posts about this.

[-] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 5 points 11 hours ago

Of course they are, otherwise people might want the anti-natalism subreddits banned, and that's where the CIA recruits 90% of their a-guy these days.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 33 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

First Anime-American suicide bomber

I read this whole thing and the words "despair is typical of those who do not understand the causes of evil" crashed through the roof and destroyed my fish tank.

[-] Bishop_Owl@hexbear.net 10 points 18 hours ago

Anti-natalism isn't the problem here, it's lack of understanding. What does blowing up a fertility clinic really accomplish in the long run.

I say this as an anti-natalist with a pro-mortalist lean. All this person did was increase suffering in the world, for no reason.

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[-] Korkki@lemmy.ml 37 points 23 hours ago

I'm not a psycho, but....

A true nihilist would have just killed himself and been done with it. Instead overdose of liberalism and hyper individualism makes people just not want to live, but also make a show of murdering other people, because the "show" puts them and their ego on the center stage.

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 7 points 17 hours ago

he shits on nihilism in the (alleged) manifesto

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 35 points 23 hours ago

Really didnt have a anime-brainedpoisoned new-athiest anti-natalist carmakazi bomber on my 2025 bingo card.

But here we are.

[-] Arahnya@hexbear.net 51 points 1 day ago

right wing ideology repackaged into faux concern about the suffering of other people. Could have done a Luigi or Rodney L Hinton but noo, why would you do something that benefits society and maybe improves material conditions or sends a message to the rich elite / their cronies.

[-] LupineTroubles@hexbear.net 24 points 22 hours ago

This is what happens when a culture doesn't understand happiness isn't the end goal of life. Consumerism which promotes idea of earning your happiness through constant self-improvement has its logical conclusion in this idea that all which isn't happy or striving for happiness through consumption is wasted. This is functionally same ideology as those social media life coaches selling the hustle grindset.

[-] RedDawn@hexbear.net 5 points 16 hours ago

The website says you can download the video of it, but it doesn’t look like the video ever showed up.

[-] CommCat@hexbear.net 11 points 20 hours ago

I just found out what "elifism" (life spelled backwards) was a few days ago, when somebody mentioned it on the collapse subreddit, now this happens, how weird.

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 19 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

This needs a CW for the ableism buried way deep in the middle of this weird ass manifesto. And many other things actually

[-] peppersky@hexbear.net 62 points 1 day ago

This is what a few hundred years of capitalism does to people

[-] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 55 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The last paragraph really drives home that this person just led a fucked up and depressing existence, and then, on top of that, a close friend dying/being murdered/suiciding in a clearly confusing arrangement.

I dunno. I don't feel overly angry at this person, what they've done is utterly and truly awful and should never have been done. But I can see how an awful life like that could totally warp your view of the world. I'm extremely mad at our shit society that frequently lets people get to this point without helping them or really giving a shit.

[-] DornerStan@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 1 day ago

Yeah this was very close to my worldview after a life of trauma, until I slowly shifted towards leftism then Marxism. A sort of reification of mental illness and despair into a quasi-ideology.

It takes more than a nudge for these feelings to develop into a belief system and produce results like this. The West expends so much energy eradicating leftist thought from the culture, giving unmaterialist and destructive ideologies like this an evolutionary advantage. Not to mention how many cases like this are likely enabled/influenced/caused by feds.

I'm mostly just sad.

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 37 points 1 day ago

But I can see how an awful life like that could totally warp your view of the world.

yeah i'm not gonna go bomb a fertility clinic but my life has been predominately suffering and it would be a crime to force someone to live many of our lives.

[-] Bruja@hexbear.net 46 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Post contains ableism, r-slur, discussion and encouragement of self-harm, links to transphobia, anti-furry, anti-autism, probably more toxic content but noped out.

[self-harm, speculation]
Says a close friend had her boyfriend shoot her in the head while sleeping sometime in the last 28 days, links to her social media where she says she’s an aro wlw terf, says he told her he would soon follow if she ever went through with it since he’d never find someone else who would understand him.

He seems to plainly admit to a lot of heinous things, so maybe not a reason to lie about it, but I suspect this may be a murder-suicide.

Also have an awful feeling despite all the awful stuff, carnists are going to focus on “he was a vegan” like they vegetarianjacket hitler to try to justify their unethical behahiour.

[-] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 33 points 1 day ago

Yeah I saw that too. After leaving the mod team of vegan circlejerk that whole community was tied to antinatalism and it upset me to see that. I wrote a statement on it and this for the vegan theory club:

https://vegantheoryclub.org/post/1589146 https://hexbear.net/post/4951471

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago

So that's what happened to VCJ, I pretty much stopped reading it after the antinatalism stuff started popping up all over that sub. Sucks, because I always thought that was one of the only good subs on that shithole site and as sad as it is to admit, the posts on there making fun of carnists and vegetarians helped me go vegan.

[-] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Hundreds of people have told me that it helped them go vegan while I modded it from 2018 - 2023 but the increasing scrutiny of the admins was annoying, having my long time account HamidPayaamAbbasi get banned, and it was starting to make me mad having to sign into reddit and approve everything. When all the anarchists stepped down it was left to a few libs who started the antinatalism shit.

My goodbye from reddit post was this

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[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 38 points 1 day ago

least brainwormed burger

[-] godlessworm@hexbear.net 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

wow what a cringlord. praise allah he blew his dumb ass up

[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 25 points 1 day ago

How does anarchism always seem to find its way into these bullshit ideologies?

[-] Real_User@hexbear.net 36 points 21 hours ago

Anarchism has cool branding. If you're already just grabbing ideologies at random to combine, why not go for the one with the coolest logo?

[-] Real_User@hexbear.net 29 points 21 hours ago

Same reason why everyone wants to be punk imo

[-] roux@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago

My brother is a straight up fascist and one of his first tattoos was the A symbol. I still don't get it.

[-] ikilledtheradiostar@hexbear.net 30 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

If anarchism is primarily about the liberation of the individual free from the impositions of others then it just a short step to apply that only to a small group and subjugate the rest.

[-] sodium_nitride@hexbear.net 13 points 19 hours ago

Let's not shit on the anarchists too much. We marxists also got plenty of fucking wierdos and patsocs and other kinds of morons. This is mostly just the consequence of the terminal lack of rigorous materialism in the thinking of western populations.

[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I think "If" is the operative word there. Lots of self-styled rebels who've never read a word of Bookchin think anarchy just means "I can hurt anyone I want and there's no one to stop me."

Being an ML myself, I have my own criticisms of anarchism, but I still think it deserves better than to be perverted by antisocial chuds.

[-] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 56 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Is anyone else increaseingly worried they'll get taken out by one of these maniacs. America is so unsafe, but everyone acts like its nbd. I hate it. I dream of the day I'm in China and won't have to worry im gonna get blown up, or shot randomly while grocery shopping or something.

[-] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 32 points 1 day ago

One of my biggest fears is being killed by one of these people, but specifically in large part because of the indignity of being killed by one of these types of jackasses.

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[-] RNAi@hexbear.net 44 points 1 day ago

By the most alienated idiot with the most stupid "ideology"

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[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You know there's something seriously wrong with capitalist society when a ”philosophy” as nonsensical as efilism is developed.

soypoint-1 Whoa, it's like…life spelled backwards, that means we should kill everyone. That's so deep.

I also think this post needs CWs for ableism and self-harm, the last paragraph on that site is so sad desolate

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[-] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 43 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In the download directory, you should be able to find an mp3 file where I explain, but basically, I'm a promortalist. Efil blaise explains what this is quite well.

We had a thread here about Efilists subreddit just a week or two ago and this happens. Someone took the Inmendham jrpg villian arc seriously agony-deep

[-] HelluvaBottomCarter@hexbear.net 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Smelled like fed shit then and it smells like fed shit now. The right has been itching for someone like this to come along and here they are. They also left an audio diary and a webzone explaining their motives in a way that fits exactly with the right's grudges against environmentalists.

[-] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago

The fed shit is putting a magnifying glass on these bullshit reddit philosophies and actively encouraging their spread, because they know someone like this (or lots of someones) will do stuff like this. This isn't a "false flag" or anything, just the natural consequences of the feds steering people away from leftist political thought and into nonsensical right wing violence.

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