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[-] socsa@piefed.social 18 points 2 weeks ago

If this situation was reversed, MAGA would have raised $100k for her legal defense by now.

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

She would have been pardoned by the President lol

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[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Her inmate photo is something else. Sadly she got like 15 years. Free my girl.

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[-] saigot@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago

there was an old redditism that the best way to get off with murder is to use your car and call it an accident... I wonder if this is that. Get plastered, kill a nazi, go to jail for 5 years instead of 20.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago

there was an old redditism that the best way to get off with murder is to use your car

Not a redditism. An urbinist-ism. Reddit had a healthy contingent of urbanists, but you'll find us here on Lemmy too, over at !fuckcars@lemmy.world, or !urbanism@slrpnk.net. (Or, frankly, because it's a movement with significant overlap to anticapitalism, just all around the threadiverse.)

And it's completely true, too. I can easily think of half a dozen cases where someone killed someone else with a car and got away scott-free in my country alone (in fact: with just one exception, the ones that come to my mind are all in my city alone). And only one of those cases even went to court as far as I know.

[-] Rinox@feddit.it 2 points 2 weeks ago

In Italy there's been a big push against this in the last decade.

There's now a law called "road murder" (omicidio stradale) which makes the penalties for killing someone while driving, especially if intoxicated, more similar to intentional murder (rather than manslaughter). It's essentially aggravated manslaughter, when you cause the death of someone while driving recklessly.

[-] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

Dan Sheehan (of “NOT A WOLF”) wrote a piece about how easy it is to get away with vehicular murder on his blog: https://www.reallyveryhuman.com/p/where-can-a-car-kill-me

[-] fartographer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I have a cousin who once said that he's gotten more tickets on a bike in Manhattan than anytime he's driven through the city. He then followed that with, "in fact, I'm pretty sure that as long as you don't hit anything that pays or collects taxes, the police will tell you to go away because you're interrupting the flow of traffic."

[-] socsa@piefed.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

How tf do you get a ticket on a bike? Just hop on the sidewalk and down an alley or two and nobody's going to catch you.

[-] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

I ride in the parks after curfew bylaw and we pretend they've done their job for a moment where they "chase" me to an alley they can't drive through and I wait for them to fuck off for 2 minutes.

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[-] WillFord27@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

She lists on her WriteAPrisoner page that her biggest inspiration is Maya Angelou, a black civil rights activist. She also has her bachelor's in journalism. Not impossible lol.

Unfortunately her earliest release date is midway through 2033, 15 years after incarceration in 2018.

[-] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

Genuinely true! Killing with cars is a misdemeanor.

[-] cattywampas@midwest.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

This depends on the state and depends wildly on the circumstances. Driving in a reckless manner, e.g. while intoxicated, and killing someone is probably a felony everywhere.

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[-] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

My grandfather killed a nazi and became a hero. Ms. Sherry does it and she becomes the enemy. That doesn't seem fair.

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[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago

I'd say give her back her driver's licence, but its only valid in towns occupied by the kkk/neo-nazis

[-] Tattorack@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Fascist Lives Don't Matter.

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[-] JeSuisUnHombre@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago

controversial opinionThese nazi racist fuckheads are still human beings. As unfortunate as it may be and as implausible it might seem, any of us are capable of becoming or raising someone to become entrenched in a bad and hateful ideology. Dehumanizing them doesn't stop their ideas from spreading. In fact, a big part of their ideology is the dehumanization of different groups of people. So please don't encourage that practice.

[-] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

There is only so much empathy you can lend out to a fascist black hole before it sucks you into its hateful gravitational pool. Purity tests like what you are proposing just makes them stronger.

[-] JeSuisUnHombre@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not saying you have to treat them with kindness. I am saying you have to reckon with the fact that they are still human. Or you will be doomed to follow the same path.

[-] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I recognize what happened to them was wrong and shouldn’t have happened, but I am glad it wasn’t a person of better moral character to be the victim.

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[-] Nangijala@feddit.dk 5 points 2 weeks ago

It's literally the one message every old European used to preach to us younger generations back in the day. I remember how important it was to them to make us understand that the minute we start dehumanizing people we don't like, we are repeating the cycle.

It is why movies like Der Untergang exists. We have to understand that the most despicable people who ever lived were still human beings and much closer to ourselves than we like to think.

I have carried with me, my whole life the knowledge that I am fallible and I am capable of evil no matter how good of a person I think I am. To a lesser extent, every time I have thought I was too clever to fall for x, y and z, that's when I have fallen right into it. "I would never end up in an abusive relationship. I have too much self respect for that" 🤡 "I'm far too strong to become the doormat in this and that friendship" 🤡 "I'll never fall for fake information online. I'm too observant" 🤡

I could never trust myself to believe I would be too smart, kind or principled to not fall into a destructive and abusive pattern of behavior if the circumstances are twisted just right. I think more people would benefit if they reminded themselves of their imperfections and got off their high horses. On Lemmy alone I have encountered far too many holier than thou types who are super duper anti fascist but ironically act exactly like fascists, but to them it doesn't count because they are "on the right side of history".

Am I sad that some nazi KKK guy died? No. But he was human. Most likely a very terrible human, but still human.

[-] needthosepylons@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I do agree with almost everything you wrote, but I don't understand the moral consequence. One do not have to think they're too smart or too pure to take some kind of solace from the fact that there's one less fascist walking the earth.

To me, that has nothing to do with being "better" as a human. It's just that their project means my/our death. The more they grow, the more we die and vice versa. I do not dehumanize them nor do I think they're stupid or deserve anything.

It's as simple as : the more they grow, the more anything I care for will wither away.

[-] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

You're right, but it makes people uncomfortable so they don't want to agree with you.

This isn't like the economy. It IS a zero sum game. If they succeed, we lose. If they thrive in life, we lose. If they continue to live at all, we lose.

They can CHOOSE to come back to humanity, unlike their victims, but I won't give them any consideration as having value until they do.

[-] Nangijala@feddit.dk 1 points 2 weeks ago

All that was said was that they are still human. Even if we dislike them. That is all. I find it interesting how defensive people are being about acknowledging that a terrible person is still a person.

If we stop acknowledging a bad person as a being a person, we have become what we hate. Its got nothing to do with caring or not caring about a kkk member dying. All we have reacted to was the claim that the guy wasn't a human. That is the dangerous part.

[-] needthosepylons@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

ICYMI, I didn't want to sound defensive. I mean it's an interesting conservation, and I found it intriguing that I agree wholeheartedly with what you wrote yet arrive at a slightly different conclusion. People don't always look to pick fights, sometimes, it's just about discussion.

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[-] sweemoof@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Two counterpoints to this (although I like the spirit):the paradox of intolerance suggests that intolerance will easily spread if we tolerate it. So in a world where tolerance is abundant: intolerance itself should still not be tolerated.

In a way I feel this may be saying the same thing again, but when we speak of protected classes and human rights we generally think of immutable qualities assigned at birth. That is, it’s not okay to discriminate based on things such as skin color, height, sound of voice, heritage, language, race, disability etc. and you get the idea.

Modern ideas stretch this a bit, as sexuality and gender identity have recently (as in within the last century, and only then within more educated cultures) entered as protected facets of human expression due to our understanding of them as involuntary. Even an individual’s personal religion is universally considered to not be up for debate, even though each of the world’s religions are composed of transient beliefs that an individual is allowed to change whether they are comfortable with it or not.

Any group’s ideas for societal idealism do not and should not get these types of protections, because ideas obviously should change if a better idea is presented. It should be agreed upon that whatever utopia is (for however close the human race can get to it), it would need to be universally agreed upon by all living individuals as well as all possible human group permutations. This is seemingly insurmountably large, so some of us tried to take shortcuts by eliminating other groups, and to make a long story short you could say the world universally condemned these ideas as one of the first “global” acts.

The point is, if somebody has:

  1. Willingly violated the social contract in defiance of available historical context and public information, and

  2. Elected to voluntarily hold that an aforementioned Protected Class of people should be either eliminated or exiled (in service to making their version of utopia easier to achieve), then

Then this somebody has found themselves to be a member of the one group of people (a group founded on voluntary belief) that society at large would be better to either eliminate or exile.

Obviously debate is preferred but one cannot reason with somebody who believes deep down in another group’s inferiority.

[-] JeSuisUnHombre@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

My point is less about what rights they might deserve, and more about staying informed and vigilant of the ideological capacities of human beings, including yourself.

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[-] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Not going to downvote but no I sharply disagree.

Nazi lives don't matter. The paradox of tolerance goes both ways. Do not tolerate the intolerant.

Btw this story was in May 2018 and sadly is not from a recent event (Nazis regime is now in the white house)

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[-] InputZero@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

On the vehicular manslaughter sure, on drunk driving charges, I should hope not. Sure this time a Nazi scumbag who deserves to die was killed, but next time it might be someone wholely innocent. Just because we hate the victim doesn't mean what she did wasn't reckless.

[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

If we are taking it seriously, that lady is lucky to be alive let alone able to open a car door at a BAC of .42. Secondly if she was at a .42 and looked that well put together when they let her out of the drunk tank the next morning it's just not fair.

[-] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago

The politics of the victim probably couldn't be mentioned during the trial. They often suppress that sort of stuff

[-] ToadOfHypnosis@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Just like the mass murdering shooter who killed the Blackstone executive in his spree. I don’t condone mass shootings, but sometimes some good accidentally comes of it.

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[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yeah, I get the hurr durr, but this bitch is just your average day red neck trash who doesn't give a shit about anyone but herself and doesn't give a shit of she kills a Nazi or a little child.

Fuck this bitch, let her rot in jail. Just bect she got lucky doesn't make any of this better

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[-] SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

John Brown would be so proud!

[-] teamevil@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

You know I wanted to at least enjoy that a Nazi was unable to Nazi anymore considering the overwhelming number of Nazis today, only to discover the girl killed him in 2018.

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

Let them eat eachother.

[-] chemicalprophet@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

See what my Christian God did for you?

[-] dan1101@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

We are in an administration that lives by "the ends justify the means", so I'll allow it this once.

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

can you imagine trying to repent and make amends for this one, and every loved one of that asshole is just as bad as they are.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I can't fix her because there's nothing to fix.

[-] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago

I can't, but I want more of her.

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