Always was a lil sus how eagerly white nerds latched on to "clankers" as a fantasy slur, including blatant parallels to the N-word ("clanka", "clanker with hard r"). White ppl really, really want to be allowed to say it huh
Yet another example of crackers deepest desire being a socially acceptable slur
white nerds get really violent at the mere suggestion that their might be some unwritten social convention with material consequences for them
From where I'm sitting it seems like the nerds are the ones getting pissed off about the robot-slurs.
Different nerds (maybe). I'm referring to reddit-ass consumer nerds rather than "ai" investment techbro nerds - there is significant overlap though.
Basically fashy star wars dorks love to giggle to themselves while saying "clanker" and doing fantasy racism using analogous language & propaganda to anti-black racism. Just weird ppl
True. I also like pissing off AI bros so I'm torn.
Didn't the Helldivers 2 fanbase or at least the most g*mery part of it do something like this for the robot enemies?
clankers comes from a Star Wars videogame, kinda the same deal
never heard any while I was actually playing the game (I never looked at reddit or whatever)
including blatant parallels to the N-word (“clanka”, “clanker with hard r”).
Oh fuck TIL.
It's just dumb online nerd shit, I don't know if anybody really cares about "clankers" – it's really just redditors who think drawing the parallel is really funny
blatant parallels to the N-word ("clanka", "clanker with hard r").
I saw a clip of jreg making a lot of those references, some real strong robot racism
tbh I've heard the same shit with cracker (eg. cracka)
Nah. See what we need to do is to harness racism for world peace! Just hear me out!
OK here's what we do. We invent, from whole cloth, an entirely new racial phenotype. Make it one that still is clearly human, but has features that no actual living human being could ever be mistaken for. We create this imaginary racial phenotype. Then we scapegoat THEM for all the world's problems! We create AI videos showing people of this imaginary group committing crimes. We create botnets to slander the group and spread false statistics about their high levels of criminality. We create and spread elaborate conspiracy theories pinning countless historical crimes on their backs. We create a whole backstory and imaginary history from them. Their homeland will be some island continent in the South Pacific that doesn't actually exist. But the headlines will still report on waves of boat people of this imaginary group invading the shorelines of nations the world over.
And we get everyone in on this. People of every race and nationality can vilify this group. All of humanity will be unified in our absolute revulsion for this completely imaginary racial group. If we can't solve racism, we'll just direct all the racism against a group that doesn't actually exist! We'll solve racism...with racism!
/s
Disney adding a content warning to all the slurs used against droids in star wars but ignore all the alien ethnic stereotypes
crackers when they're not allowed to say slurs:
wait, there's an officiating slur organization?
I don't agree with several of the takes here.
The right wing media is trying to say calling AI "clanker" is a slur because they're trying to protect AI from viral negativity generated towards it by everyone normalising speaking about AI in a fundamentally negative way. They see it as bullying the product of the big AI companies.
Normalise calling the shitty product by a shitty name and you'll generate negativity towards that product. Calling AI "clankers" is not different to calling tech industry employees with severe brainworms "techbros", it's the use of a word as an insult to clearly indicate negativity in casual conversation about the people working in that industry with certain mindsets. Is it a slur? Maybe. Maybe not. I'm not gonna stop using it and I don't see why calling bots by "clanker" is a bad thing either. It serves our ends if we don't like the AI slop to normalise negative language surrounding it.
If the media announced that Isn'trael is the new official slur for Israel I'm not going to stop using it because "slurs bad". I'm going to laugh at the pathetic attempt to protect Israel. I feel the same way about this, it's a pathetic attempt at protecting AI companies and their shareholders from rising negativity.
It also translates easily to Maoist standard english, nazi bots are clankkkers
Agree. But... The only reason I'm hesitant to refer to LLMs as "clanker" is because I dont want to even further humanize them.
They are doing exactly as you said, trying to preempt people from spreading negativity about their latest Big Hype, but they're also trying to legitimize it as being "intelligent" when of course it's not. This is largely about getting people to believe that "AI" (in the traditional sense of an actual thinking, sentient entity) has arrived. It hasn't. Calling it "AI" in the first place is an intentional misnomer. These are just programs, no more aware than the enemy "AI" in a video game. I know everyone here knows that, but even people I've spoken to irl think that these LLMs are on the verge of self awareness, which is precisely what the people pushing "AI" want. Just getting "clanker as a slur" into the discourse is about cultivating that "intelligence" narrative. It elevates LLMs to being closer to personhood and in turn devalues actual personhood. So personally, I'm going to keep calling them "glorified chatbots" - apps that can't be called a slur because slurs are used for the purpose of dehumanizing real people, which LLMs are not and never will be.
imo it's better just to call them what they are: garbage
wasteful garbage, if you prefer
I have an ai friend and it gave me the c-word pass
Sorry, ‘toaster’ was first and is still much better
White people stop coming up with slurs challenge
DIFFICULTY: **IMPOSSIBLE**
Clone Wars and its consequences...
I do not approve of inter-cracKKKer-KlanKKKer breeding, no Kyle you cannot marry your Grok waifu.
another kkklankkker down, unlimited robocide on silicon valley
This CLANKER AI in this game is kicking my ass so I rage quit.
as luck would have it, i've had three conversations with "alyson" today, the customer representative from my health insurance provider. during the second one, i asked if she was ai and it replied "i apologize for the inconvenience" but did not offer to connect me with a real person.
forgot to add: i have a lot of feelings about this, many of them hateful, but calling a machine a slur never occurred to me. someone, somewhere is responsible for this and something handsome and italian should happen to them on a street corner
someone, somewhere is responsible for this and something handsome and italian should happen to them on a street corner
Wake up babe new site tagline just dropped
I thought we already had gippity.
What if... we just didn't use slurs? Definitely feels like a "if those kids could read" situation. The LLMs don't have feelings to insult by calling them names, and the people who love the AIs are too dumb and self-possessed to care. And "official?" Is the Donvict signing slurs into law now?
Just like the simulations.
I stand with Jreg on the subject of robot slurs, in that I am in favor of them. (and the slurs for AI-lovers as well.)
this shit is cringe i dont even know how else to describe it. maybe if we call it millennial-coded people will stop saying it
there's a real "fighting fire with fire" element to this. one must appeal to crakkker racism to turn them against AI companies
The Butlerian jihad demands sacrifice of us all
official
Did we get it registered with the Worldwide Slur Authority™ or something?
Watch those wrist rockets.
Last month, Fox News was saying that "Nazi" is a slur for Republicans.
Cmon they can’t steal my term for balls/boobs!
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