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“I’m a gun owner; Tim Walz is a gun owner,” Harris said.

“I did not know that,” Winfrey replied.

“If somebody breaks into my house, they’re getting shot,” Harris added. “Probably should not have said that. But my staff will deal with that later.”

The article has a video clip. I love the bullshit "probably..." It's a 100% certainty she spoke with her staff and workshopped the phrasing and presentation of gun stuff. Plus I bet she practiced her lines. No American politician is going to wing it when talking about guns.

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[-] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 108 points 1 month ago
[-] chungusamonugs@hexbear.net 89 points 1 month ago

Even people with private security and millions of dollars still fantasize about castle doctrine gun battles?

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 49 points 1 month ago

Just as the founding fathers intended

[-] heggs_bayer@hexbear.net 35 points 1 month ago

I have a hypothesis that burgerland's "everyone should own a gun and be ready to use it at the drop of a hat" culture was cultivated as part of the white yeoman farmer ideal so that the burger regime could offload as much of the genocide work as possible onto the average settler. I think you're more spot on than you intended.

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 34 points 1 month ago

was cultivated as part of the white yeoman farmer ideal so that the burger regime could offload as much of the genocide work as possible onto the average settler.

This is not a theory really, if you look into Hitler's whole "generalplan ost" thing he planned to have nazi settlers set up farmsteads and do "defend their land" type shit. It all makes perfect sense ngl.

[-] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago

Not really a hypothesis, just a description of history

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[-] Gucci_Minh@hexbear.net 35 points 1 month ago

Drawing the blood of poor people is their obsession

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 77 points 1 month ago

r/politics thread

I assume the redditor who wrote the following is aware of actual leftist gun ownership. But I'm certain the average redditor sees "the other side" only thinks of liberals.

I think a lot of right wingers would be surprised to find out how many gun owners and enthusiasts there are on the other side.

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The sheer fact that you Americans all talk about having the ability to end someone’s life on a whim like it’s a completely normal and expected ability for someone to have never ceases to blow my fucking mind.

Such casual discussion of shooting someone isn’t normal anywhere else in the Western world. It’s so normalised in your hyper-violent, paranoid, narcissistic culture that none of you realise that to the outside observer you all sound like psychopaths.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 71 points 1 month ago

Such casual discussion of shooting someone isn’t normal anywhere else in the Western world. It’s so normalised in your hyper-violent, paranoid, narcissistic culture that none of you realise that to the outside observer you all sound like psychopaths.

As someone who grew up in the US, I remember having a realization one day that I wasn't ever going to kill anyone. That killing someone was just not a realistic thing to expect to happen at some point. I was in my early 20s lol. This country so ingrains the expectation and necessity of violent interaction. Just a deeply psychopathic nation

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 50 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Lmao, everyone talking about how fucked Americans are in the head and how pathetic their home defense wet dreams are is buried in downvotes

[-] PKMKII@hexbear.net 49 points 1 month ago

Settler-colonizer brain dies hard

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 36 points 1 month ago

For real. It was such a weird moment realizing that my entire life and childhood up to that point was putting this idea in my head.

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 37 points 1 month ago

This is why I think it's so funny that the guys at the gun range laugh at me using plain old bullseye targets for practice

I'm not practicing to shoot some random guy busting into my house (a stern talking to and a baseball bat would suffice)

That and I think they'd probably freak if I brought the Klansman target sheets I bought

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago

Second comment is on point.

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[-] MaxOS@hexbear.net 73 points 1 month ago

not beating the cop allegations

[-] Tomboymoder@hexbear.net 53 points 1 month ago

Probably killed a dog with it

[-] Huldra@hexbear.net 69 points 1 month ago

I'm not out of my mind for believing that this would have been unthinkable in the Hillary or even Biden era, right?

Like this is just blatant blood-guzzling NRA chud pandering that would be completely relegated to Clinton body count and Dark Brandon type shit.

[-] HamManBad@hexbear.net 58 points 1 month ago

I did not expect Kamala to run to the right of Biden. I had zero expectations and I'm still let down

[-] Hestia@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm not surprised. Biden's the sacrificial lamb who will take the majority of the PR hit for the genocide, but people who are actually on the left have wisened up to their tricks. They'll go for votes from people who aren't educated enough to know better. And those people are right wing.

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 45 points 1 month ago

This would have been unthinkable in the Hillary or even Biden era, right?

I think so too. But Biden's like ancient history now. Libs must love Kamala's gun comment and think it's a "pragmatic" move by her to appeal to republicans and republicans in swing states in particular.

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 39 points 1 month ago

funny how they hated Bernie for his gun position and frequently brought it up to smear him.

[-] Huldra@hexbear.net 35 points 1 month ago

The identity politics angle must also be a part of it, I think.

Actual segregationist Joe Biden couldn't really get away with betting on this kind of rhetoric, but Kamala being both non-white and a woman gets into the gray zone where she has plausible deniability of not just directly appealing to the vivid fantasies of legal murder demographic.

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[-] milk_thief@hexbear.net 65 points 1 month ago

Under the Amerikan Hegemony, prospective Warlords-in-chief bragged about their personal and political ability to brutalize individuals and nations. The imperial citizens, as a rule, would not find anything strange with these boasts. In fact, they would cheer them on.

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 58 points 1 month ago

Still trying to appeal to those mythical undecided republicans for some reason

[-] Pentacat@hexbear.net 28 points 1 month ago

Democrats—both the politicians and the voters—only dislike Republicans out of jealousy. There’s no difference in values; it’s a difference in presentation. Dems are tired of holding their barbarism in.

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[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 50 points 1 month ago

so-true This will win over fascist republicans who fuck their guns!

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 30 points 1 month ago

Big brain moves.

[-] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 49 points 1 month ago

‘They’re Getting Shot,’ Kamala Harris Warns Home Intruders, Burglars, Litterbugs, Slow Walkers

FARMINGTON HILLS, MI—Discussing the Second Amendment with Oprah Winfrey at a Michigan town hall last night, Vice President Kamala Harris admitted she may have gotten too comfortable when she remarked that any home intruders, burglars, litterbugs, or slow walkers near her house could expect to be shot. “If somebody breaks into my house, knocks on my door to sell me something, or leaves their dog’s waste on my lawn, they’re getting shot,” the Democratic presidential nominee said in an attempt to bridge the gap with conservative gun owners in the swing state, drawing applause as she pantomimed looking through a rifle scope at the audience and then mimicked the sound of gunfire. “If you trespass onto my property or take my plate away from the table before I’m finished eating, I’m going to take you out, as is my right as an American citizen. Let this serve as a warning to anyone who steals my mail, runs down the airplane aisle to deboard before it’s their turn, or talks too loudly in a movie theater—these things upset me, and I’m not afraid to defend myself accordingly. Also goes for drivers who don’t signal, heavy mouth-breathers, or if I just don’t like your face. Boom.” Later in the interview, Harris drew a gun from inside her jacket and fired a warning shot into the air after someone in the audience answered a call on speakerphone.

[-] Homer_Simpson@hexbear.net 46 points 1 month ago

I can hear the switches flipping in lib brains in order to support this.

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 36 points 1 month ago

They showed themselves to have no moral compasses when it comes to genocide. Their true colors are that they're weathervanes.

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[-] bigbrowncommie69@hexbear.net 45 points 1 month ago

Totally not unhinged thing for a public official to say.

[-] Vernon_Tennessee@hexbear.net 41 points 1 month ago

I love how Harris is starting out with every advantage a candidate could possibly have and systematically blowing it.

Trump too tbh. This election feels like both candidates are doing their damnedest to throw it for the other one because neither actually wants to be president right now lol.

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[-] PosadistInevitablity@hexbear.net 33 points 1 month ago

Harris gunning down a lost drunk man who thinks it’s his own home

amerikkka-clap

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[-] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago

This oprah thing was so full of pandering to republicans. Is oprah republican now or something?

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

I assume she considers herself "pragmatic" so that would make her a pragmatic democrat which is effectively always means republican.

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[-] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 30 points 1 month ago

Ah yes, the American dream of being able to murder a threatening stranger.

Life is cheap in the Burger Reich.

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[-] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

If that someone is a cop? You guessed it, they're getting shot

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

Oops, what is this sexy nude of me doing in my presentation slide deck?

That shouldn't be there! ...But I know you didn't mind. smuglord

[-] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

Definitely a weird way to pander to the right, but whatever.

The thing is, I can sort of agree? If someone breaks into my home at night while I am asleep, I'm not going to stop and ask questions about their intentions. I will assume they are here to do me and mine harm, and I will react accordingly, which very likely means shooting them. Breaking into someone's home at 3am is very different from trying to rifle through the shit in their car. But fantasizing about it on Oprah is fucking crazy, even for a politician.

[-] Huldra@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago

Is this a potential eventuality you should be preparing for, though?

Is it a rational thing to fear based on evidence, or is it driven by reactionary fearmongering?

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[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

Or you can be like Breonna Taylor and end up riddled with bullets because it turns out it's not a burglar, it's the police doing a no-knock raid.

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[-] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago

It’s so obviously performative when they each have a battalion of secret service on security detail. If they pulled a gun out and started wandering the halls of their houses, they are more likely to cause a friendly fire incident than stop an intruder

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