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[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 3 points 23 minutes ago* (last edited 22 minutes ago)

Maybe I'm just grouchy today but how in the world does a word coming up twice in a row translate to a language being flawed? That seems like calling spelling "flawed" because letters come up twice in a row in a word.

[-] filcuk@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 minutes ago

It doesn't 'flow' as well. It makes you pause to rephrase.
I know two languages, so I can only offer a limited perspective, but English has a lot of oddities seemingly caused by simplification, yet it can be really complex if you care to dig in.
There are many aspects you just have to learn by experience.
I enjoy the language and its quirks.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

About the sign "Alpha and Bravo", the spaces between Alpha and and and and and Bravo are too large.

[-] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

I'm surprised that that is your criterion.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 21 points 9 hours ago

It annoys me so much when I feel I need to write a sentence like that that I go to great lengths to restructure sentences to avoid it.

...fuck

[-] Prethoryn@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

Your grammar and sanity are better for it. Actually, most cases I'm which a double that is used you can probably get away with a single that.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

It is true that that is almost never necessary.

[-] Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

"It is true that that's almost never necessary."

I can't wrap my head around this, logically it's still a 'double that' but the short form makes it palatable to read/say.

[-] m4m4m4m4@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

I remember one time at r/peloton one of those tribalistic mildly-xenophobic nutcases told me, after sharing an article in spanish which had some ambiguous word, something to the effect that "spanish is the most confusing language in the world".

Yes, that genius told that. In english.

[-] BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

“That that” can and probably should be replaced with “that which” in almost every instance it is used.

Edit: or “when that”

[-] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

I'm surprised that that is your opinion.

Put that in your thatwhich and eat it ;).

[-] credo@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago

Many times you don’t need the first “that” at all.

Did you know that I play soccer?

Vs

Did you know I play soccer?

[-] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

That is both true and less "demonstrative".

It's not the language'a fault that you suck at using it

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

It's not the language, but the ~~driver~~ speaker. - Dominic Toretto

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 14 points 17 hours ago

Sometimes we have a do do problem, too. I do do that, anyway.

[-] SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 14 hours ago

Yes its called diarrhoea

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 12 points 17 hours ago

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo!

[-] DillyDaily@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

I still feel like the nouns are in the wrong place when I read this.

I'm reading it as "New York cows new York cows bully bully New York cows"

When I want it to read "New York cows bully new York cows" which would be "Buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo" which isn't enough buffalo.

I have to inset my own "that" to be able to get my head around "Buffalo buffalo (that) Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo"

[-] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 63 points 23 hours ago

You can create a sentence with an infinite number of "police"

Who polices the Police?

Police Police police Police.

Who polices the Police Police?

Police Police Police police Police Police.

And so on...

[-] fl42v@lemmy.ml 59 points 23 hours ago

* the sound of buffalos approaching *

[-] lugal@lemmy.world 19 points 21 hours ago

Plot twist: There is no police police. ACAB

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[-] TriflingToad@lemmy.world 14 points 18 hours ago

I don't get it after the 2nd had, any chance someone else understands?

[-] khannie@lemmy.world 25 points 18 hours ago

It needs a comma.

All the good faith I had had, had had no effect.

Essentially "all the food faith I previously had, didn't have any effect".

Good God English is an awful language.

[-] chicagohuman@lemm.ee 2 points 9 hours ago

Why was your food faith no good?

[-] Classy@sh.itjust.works 14 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I'm pretty sure it is grammatically correct with no comma. The version you provided is a comma splice.

To slightly change the tense, All the good faith that I had had no effect is grammatically correct with no comma, so the gerund form should also not need a comma.

[-] khannie@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Perhaps. Regardless it's outlandish abuse of the tongue IMO and definitely would benefit from the comma because nobody's going to just bang out 4 had's in a row in speech without a pause without a justifiable slap across the chops and possibly a challenge to a duel.

"But your honour, he said 'had' four times on the trot without pause"

"Case dismissed"

[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 3 points 12 hours ago

It doesn't need a comma, it needs restructuring. When phrasing it like this, it is customary to add a comma between two adjacent verbs. You could even argue that the first part is an introductory phrase, which would explain the comma too.

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[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 92 points 1 day ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

The landlord of a pub called The Pig And Whistle asked a sign writer to make a new sign. When he saw it he thought that the words were too close together, so he said to the sign writer “I want more space between Pig and And and And and Whistle”.

[-] BluesF@lemmy.world 17 points 22 hours ago

Inspired by the story, another landlord decides to name their pub "Pig and And and And and Whistle." Lo and behold, the sign was cramped... Ther needed more space between Pig and and and and and And and And and and and and and And and And and and and and and Whistle.

[-] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

You shut your whore mouth.

[-] accideath@lemmy.world 18 points 23 hours ago

Buffalo buffalo, Buffalo buffalo buffalo, buffalo Buffalo buffalo.

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[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 84 points 1 day ago

Live footage of me reviewing a report that has a repeated word series like this:

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[-] ornery_chemist@mander.xyz 10 points 19 hours ago

dass das das das dass da ersetzen kann ist falsch

translation: that "das" can replace "dass" there is wrong.

same shit different barbarians

[-] airbreather@lemmy.world 60 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

James, while John had had "had", had had "had had;" "had had" had had a greater effect on the teacher.

[-] nixcamic@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I came here to post this, it's my favorite sentence in the English language. Although imo it makes more sense if you switch your "while" for a "where".

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